Monday, January 16, 2023

Buddha and Jesus

INTRODUCTION:

Sometimes you will see people allege that the writers of the Gospels simply copied teachings from Buddha or events from the life of Buddha, often with a list of supposed similarities. One will notice that such lists are almost never accompanied by any kind of actual documentation or proof of these parallels and many of those parallels seem to simply be made up (this applies to similar lists of other religious figures, but this essay is focusing on Buddha).

There is one list that gets spread around, though, that actually does bother to give some citations, which puts it ahead of the curve; it is rather sad that simply giving sources puts one ahead of the curve, but this is how low the state of the arguments that Jesus's life is a copy of Buddha's generally are. However, this "ahead of the curve" list is still highly flawed. Someone else, James Patrick Holding, already did do an investigation of this list, which can be found here:
https://www.tektonics.org/copycat/buddha01.php

As what you are reading is an addendum to that list, it is highly recommended that you read that page first, or at least the introductory material.

You may be asking why this addendum exists, as that essay already looks into the list in considerable detail, point by point. The problem is that at the time that examination was written, older books were nowhere near as available, as services such as Google Books and The Internet Archive (if they existed then) did not have as much material in them. This means that some of the sources cited in the list of parallels were very hard to come by and he was unable to check them. Further, some of the citations in the list were very abbreviated and too vague for him to even figure out what the works in question were. Thus, for some of the things on the list he could not do anything other than to note the difficulty in acquiring or even figuring out what they were. However, these works are mostly available online now, and I have found the original source of the list, which gives us greater information as to what the sources were.

What was the source of the list? The list of parallels between Buddha and Jesus are taken from a work published in the 1990's called "Their Hollow Inheritance" by Michoel Drazin. The work is an attack on Christianity from a Jewish perspective; this is also why you will see that words like "God" or "Lord" are censored in the list, as the author follows the frequent Jewish practice of not wishing to write out those words even in English. Most of the work simply gives standard Jewish objections to Christianity, and I won't be handling those as others have made better arguments on that subject than I could (such as, for example, tektonics.org). The work probably would have been forgotten in the midst of similar works by other Jewish writers if not for a section in which it tries to claim the life of Jesus is copied from those of other "god-men" such as Buddha, in which it offers a list of supposed parallels with sources provided. This section has lived on, with his list being copied and distributed online (often without giving the source of the list), but the footnotes offered in those online copies are brief and some of them are too vague to attempt to look up by themselves.

However, in the original book there was a bibliography that provides more information about what these sources are. Additionally, the older 19th-century books cited are now available for free online thanks to sources like the Internet Archive. Thus while Holding, in his examination of the list, was unable to check on some of the citations when it was composed, it is now possible to look up the sources to see if they back up the claims of parallels between Jesus and Buddha.

But the story of this list doesn't quite begin with Drazin. One will notice how many of the sources are 19th century works that, prior to so many works being archived online, would have been very difficult to get. In Holding's article, he wondered how the person who made the list managed to get access to so many older and now rare books. I believe I have found the answer. Michoel Drazin's list in his book relies very heavily on "Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions" by T.W. Doane, a book published in 1882 that tries to argue for strong parallels between the stories in the Bible and those of other religions (indeed, Drazin cites this work directly in some cases in his own book, though not in the citations being examined here). Doane's work has enough problems beyond even just the claims that Drazin took from him that it perhaps deserves a blog post of its own as a critique, but for our present purpose we'll only be focusing on the claims that Drazin took from him. Anyway, of the 19th-century books that are cited in the list, almost all of them are citations that Doane offered in his own book. Thus is solved the mystery of how the writer of the list got their hands on so many older books: They were simply relying on Doane, a 19th-century writer, and obviously a 19th-century writer would have a much easier time obtaining 19th-century books.

It is not clear if Drazin made any attempt to verify the sources offered by Doane. There are definitely cases where he did not and simply copied Doane's citation (the first source we will discuss is one where it is obvious he did not check). Thus it is entirely possible he did not verify any of them at all and simply copied all of Doane's citations uncritically. It is ironic that Drazin should put so much trust into Doane that he will do this, considering that Doane also targets the Old Testament when it comes to pagan parallels--meaning that if Doane is a trustworthy source, then Drazin's own religion, Judaism, is imperiled! For our own purposes, this is of little importance, because as was demonstrated in the original examination, and will be further demonstrated in this addendum, Doane can hardly be considered a trustworthy source. Nevertheless, it is odd that Drazin appears to be accepting so uncritically a book that, if true, would seem to disprove his own beliefs. In any event, because so much of this is taken from Doane, this examination can also be seen as an examination of Doane's own work.

One final note that should be mentioned is the importance of knowing what the original primary Buddhist sources for these supposed parallels are. Only those that can be demonstrated to predate Christianity can be used as plausible proof of Christians taking these things from Buddhism. Thus, if a parallel in another religion like Buddhism only appears to come after Christianity already existed and the Gospels were already written, then it is of no use in proving any such thing. Without a primary source, we cannot determine whether the story comes from a source that could predate the Gospels.

Further, we should also remember that the Buddhist texts were in languages such as Chinese, Sanskrit, or Pali that would have been unknown to those who lived where the Gospels were written. Nor would those texts have been readily available to them to begin with. Even if one wishes to try to argue that the Gospels may have gotten inspiration from the stories in the Buddhist canon in oral form we still have the obvious problem of the people who knew them being in a distant land and speaking a different language than the Gospel writers. So how would they have even known any of the stories they supposedly are copying from?

Finally, it should be noted a good number of the supposed parallels were only briefly mentioned in the large Buddhist canon. Simple familiarity with Buddhism would have been insufficient to be able to copy those into the Gospels; one would have had to be an expert in Buddhism to be aware of these more obscure passages or teachings in order to copy them. It is highly implausible that the Gospel writers would have been capable of being such experts or had access to any such experts.

Because my examinations can be a bit lengthy, I have included bolded summary descriptions at the start for each of them, for those who want to know the quick conclusions without going through a lot of paragraphs.

EXAMINATION:

"Buddha answered the "devil": "Get you away from me." (De Bunsen, p.38) Jesus responded: "...begone, Satan!" (Matthew 4:10). Both experienced the "supernatural" after the "devil" left: For Buddha: "The skies rained flowers, and delicious odors prevailed [in] the air." (Ibid.) For Jesus: "angels came and ministered to him" (Matthew 4:11)."

No primary source offered, and only appears to occur in post-Christian texts. This was already looked at by Holding in the link I mentioned in the introduction, who observed this is not found on page 38 of De Bunsen's work. As noted, this citation (like almost all of the 19th-century texts cited) is simply taken from Doane's work. But what is especially notable here is that this demonstrates that Drazin, in copying Doane's citation, did not attempt to verify it. For you see, Doane's actual citation for this is a work called the "Sacred Anthology" by Moncure D. Conway. Doane does, however, include a separate footnote that says "See also" and mentions page 38 of De Bunsen's work. Drazin seems to have misunderstood Doane's citation and thought that De Bunsen was the primary one who was being cited. Now, had Drazin verified the source, he would have noticed De Bunsen does not say this on the applicable page. Thus we see he simply copied the citation from Doane without checking it himself. This does not prove this was the case for all citations, but this and some other cases where he did not check raises the reasonable possibility that Drazin did not check on any of the sources he took from Doane.

But you may want to know, what about the source that Doane actually did cite? Does it back the claim up? Doane says it is a portion of "Siamese Life of Buddha" that was published in Conway's "Sacred Anthology" and cites pages 44, 172, 173. Sacred Anthology is a book that is a large list of moral teachings taken from various religious texts or religious ideas, including material from Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, and more.

The account on page 44 refers to a confrontation with Mara that occurred while Buddha was living as an ascetic (Buddha was said to have lived as an ascetic for years prior to achieving enlightenment), but does not include the statement of "Get you away from me." However, on page 173 it does offer an account of an earlier confrontation with Mara. In this one, Buddha is leaving behind his life as a prince in order to live as an ascetic. Right after Buddha leaves the palace, Mara confronts him and tells him that if he returns, in seven days he will become emperor of the world. In response to this, Buddha is quoted as declaring "Avaunt! Get thou far away from me!"

This phrasing is similar to that of the Gospels, but it is not clear where this comes from. As noted, Doane claims they are from a work called "Siamese Life of Buddha" but that is not what Conway seems to be saying. Conway's citation for page 44 is "Siamese. Life of Buddha. comp." and on page 172-173 is "Siam. Buddh." Based on how he cites other things, the "Siamese" refers to the origin being Siamese (other such citations are started with "Chinese", "Hebrew", "Hindu," "Christian"). "comp" as explained in the annotations at the end of the book just means "Compiled–i.e. various sentences from a book or chapter brought together." It is not clear whether "Life of Buddha" refers to a work by that name or if he's simply saying this information comes FROM accounts of the life of Buddha, without specifying his source. I would expect the latter, given that if one looks at Conway's bibliography, I do not see any citation of a work called "Life of Buddha". It appears that Doane therefore misunderstood Conway's reference and thought he was referring to an actual work called "Siamese Life of Buddha."

As a result, we do not have a clear source given for this. There are sources about Buddhism listed in his bibliography, but which one this is supposed to come from (and where in the work it is found) is unstated. Without a primary source, this cannot be used to try to demonstrate copying because the source could considerably post-date Christianity, and it is possible that Conway was rephrasing some things as well.

Even though the burden should be on the critic to provide a primary source, I did nevertheless attempt to do some research on this to see its source. As noted, the confrontation that Conway describes between Buddha and Mara where Buddha declares "Get thou far away from me!" occurs right when Buddha leaves the palace to become an ascetic. If one searches, one can find accounts of Buddha encountering Mara at this point, and Mara trying to persuade Buddha to go back to the palace he was living (Buddha was a prince). But even the ones I found did not have the most specific points claimed in the list as being parallels to Christianity, such as Buddha telling Mara "get thou far away from me".

However, Buddha encountering Mara at this point at all appears to be a later, post-Christianity addition, let alone any command of "get thou far away from me." I consulted the Buddhacarita/Buddhacharita (early second century AD) and the Lalitavistara Sūtra (third century AD), both fairly detailed biographies of Buddha. The latter clearly post-dates the Gospels and the former appears to as well, but someone could claim that they contain stories that come before the Gospels via oral tradition. However, even if they do, I note that when they describe Buddha leaving the palace (Book 5 of Buddhacarita/Buddhacharita and Chapter 15 of the Lalitavistara Sūtra), there is no mention of Mara whatsoever. If these early sources which actually come after the Gospels do not mention such an encounter, it is most probable that this was only mentioned in stories of Buddha's life written even later than that. Later in his life, Buddha does have an encounter with Mara in those sources, but not during this event, and it is this earlier event where Buddha (according to Conway) gives the line of "Get thou far away from me." Regarding the subsequent encounter between Buddha and Mara that is attested to in earlier literature, see the original essay by Holding.

Given the lack of a primary source being offered, and given the above evidence that Buddha meeting Mara at all when leaving the palace (let alone saying "get you away from me") is a later addition that only emerged after Christianity, it is unlikely there is any source early enough that attests to this that one could try to claim Christians took it from. And if there is, then the one alleging the parallel must be the one to demonstrate where it is, which has not been done.

"Both were tempted by the "devil" at the beginning of their ministry: To Buddha, he said: "Go not forth to adopt a religious life but return to your kingdom, and in seven days you shall become emperor of the world, riding over the four continents." (Moncure D. Conway, The Sacred Anthology (London, 1874), p. 173.) To Jesus, he said: "All these [kingdoms of the world] I will give you, if you fall down and worship me" (Matthew 4:9)."

Like the above, no primary source is offered, and appears to only come in post-Christian texts. This is simply re-stating the above claim from Conway (which, as noted, was inaccurately sourced to De Bunsen in the previous example). The same issues that were in that citation, therefore, apply here, namely that no primary source is offered (Conway's work is not primary nor does he clearly offer any), and there is not even any confrontation at this point between Buddha and Mara in the early biographies, indicating it comes from later sources that clearly post-date the Gospels. However, there is an additional issue here. The list claims that this happened at the beginning of their ministry. But as Conway describes it, this encounter occurs when Buddha is leaving the palace to become an ascetic. As will be noted in in regards to the next alleged parallel, Buddha spent six years as an ascetic before achieving enlightenment, and only after that did he begin his ministry. Thus to claim this happened at the beginning of his ministry is simply inaccurate.

I should also mention that the specific quote offered from Conway is actually found on page 172, not page 173. This is another indication that the list simply copied Doane's citations without checking them.

Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry: "When he [Buddha] went again to the garden he saw a monk who was calm, tranquil, self--possessed, serene, and dignified. The prince, determined to become such a monk, was led to make the great renunciation. At the time he was twenty--nine years of age...". (Encyclopedia Americana (New York: Rand McNally and Co., 1963), vol. 4, p. 672.) "Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age" (Luke 3:23).

The source is misrepresented; as it clarifies immediately after the above quote, Buddha began his public ministry at the age of 35, weakening an already-strained parallel. Holding was unable to look at this due to not having a copy of this specific edition of the Encyclopedia Americana, but I was able to get scans of the applicable pages. While the quote is found there, this isn't much of a parallel even if Buddha did begin it at the age of 29 for the reasons Holding noted. Not only that, it has to strain to make this a parallel; they weren't the same age, so it has to instead say they were "about" the same age rather than actually being the same.

But even the claim that Buddha began his public ministry at the age of 29 is false. Look at the quote from the Encyclopedia Americana. It says nothing about public ministry; rather, it says this is was when he made the "great renunciation." This was not when Buddha began public ministry, but rather when he decided to leave his opulent life as a prince and become an ascetic. The public ministry came years later. This is made even more abundantly obvious if one reads what the Encyclopedia Americana goes on to say immediately after the quote given above:

"At night, he stole out of the palace, leaving his parents, his wife, and his little son, in order that he might lead the religious life and find deliverance. During 6 years, as a wanderer, he tried to find some clue to the riddle of birth, life and death, some escape from the net of karma and transmigration, some finality where all doubts and sorrows are at rest. He sought help toward this end from the teachers with whom he came in contact, and even practiced the severest asceticism. In all of this philosophical discussion and asceticism he found nothing which satisfied him. He gave up fasting and asceticism. Then one night under the Bo tree (the pipal tree of enlightenment at Bodh-Gayā) the truth flashed into his mind. Instead of keeping this a secret and being satisfied with his own salvation, as he was at first tempted to do when he thought of the difficulties of his doctrine and discipline and the weakness of men, he wandered about the country for 45 years, teaching and preaching his way of salvation in the simple vernacular."

As we can see, although Buddha made the great renunciation at the age of 29, he did not start his public ministry then. Rather, after making the great renunciation, he spent 6 years as an ascetic, then received a revelation on how to live properly. As a result of that, he started his public ministry to share that information with others. Simple arithmetic tells us this would mean he started his public ministry after he had reached 35 years of age. Thus this parallel which was already questionable becomes even weaker, simply by reading another paragraph of the cited material.

"The multitudes required a sign from both in order that they might believe. (Muller, Science, p. 27; Matthew 16:1.)"
 
No citation given, leaving it unclear how much of this is Muller's interpretation, and even if a pre-Christian Buddhist text actually said this explicitly, signs are expected from religious figures; furthermore, the Christian citation refers not to the multitudes, but the Pharisess and Sadducees. This and the next several are the various sources simply attributed to "Muller, Science." This was too vague by itself to be looked up by Holding, but with the original source for the list known, it can be determined from its bibliography that it's "Introduction to the Science of Religion" by Max Muller from 1873. So let's look at these citations one at a time. For this one, Muller's statement is that "A saying of Buddha's is recorded, prohibiting his disciples from working miracles, though challenged by the multitudes, who required a sign that they might believe." No citation is given for this, however, leaving it unclear how much of this (particularly the mention of "required a sign that they might believe") is actually stated in any Buddhist text and how much is Muller's interpretation. Even if this is indeed found there, it's a weak parallel indeed, as signs of some kind are often expected from religious figures... and furthermore, Matthew 16:1 refers to simply the Pharisees and Sadducees, not "the multitudes."


"Buddha "represented himself as a mere link in a long chain of enlightened teachers." (Muller, Science, p. 140.) Jesus said: "Think not that I have come to abolish the law, and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them" (Matthew 5:17)."
 
No citation, and a vague parallel anyway. Like above, Muller doesn't give a citation for this. However, as Holding notes in his essay, there is only the vaguest possible parallel here anyway.


"According to the Somadeva (a Buddhist holy book), a Buddhist ascetic's eye once offended him, so he plucked it out and cast it away. (Ibid., p. 245) Jesus said: "If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and throw it away;" (Matthew 5:29)."
 
Somadeva is not a Buddhist holy book, but a Hindu writer from the 11th century! In this case, thankfully, we do have a citation by Muller, who cites "Somadeva, vi. 28, 1 seq." However, this is where an extremely embarrassing error is made by Doane (who originally gave this citation) and Drazin (who is copying Doane).

The list claims that the Somadeva was a Buddhist holy book. This is completely inaccurate. Somadeva was a writer who wrote the Kathasaritsagara, a book of various Indian legends and folk tales. Doane, who as we have noted is the source for these claims, was guilty of this same error of misunderstanding, apparently just seeing Muller's footnote and not bothering to check on who or what Somadeva was. The list then just copies Doane's error due to not looking into the issue enough itself. Exactly how much confidence should we have in either Doane or Drazin's knowledge of Buddhism if they refer to a person as a Buddhist holy book? Somadeva was not even a Buddhist; he was a Hindu!
 
That embarrassment aside, we run into a bigger problem. While this account can be found in Somadeva's work, Somadeva lived in the 11th century! Approximately a thousand years after the Gospels were written! To try to use this to show influence on the Gospels is ridiculous.


"Buddha taught that the motive of all our actions should be pity or love of our neighbor." (Ibid., p. 249) Jesus taught: "...love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44)."

No citation, and not a strong parallel anyway. A citation is not offered for this by Muller.  However, this is not really a parallel anyway. Buddha refers to neighbors, whereas Jesus refers to enemies and persecutors. Further, even if they were both referring to the same thing, this is a moral guideline espoused by many and therefore of little use in trying to demonstrate any influence on Christianity from Buddhism.


"Buddha said: "Hide your good deeds, and confess before the world the sins you have committed." (Ibid., p.28) Jesus said: "Beware of practicing your piety before men to be seen by them;" (Matthew 6:1) and "Therefore confess your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that you may be healed..." (James 5:16)."
 
No citation, and a fairly universal moral suggestion. Muller does not offer any citation for this, but as was noted by Holding, this is a fairly universal moral suggestion and thus makes a poor parallel for the purpose of claiming copying.


"One day Ananda, the disciple of Buddha, after a long walk in the country, meets with Matangi, a woman of the low caste of the Kandalas, near a well, and asks her for some water. She tells him what she is, and that she must not come near him. But he replies: `My sister, I ask not for your caste or your family, I ask only for a drought of water. She afterwards became a disciple of Buddha." (Muller, Science, p. 243) "There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus said to her: `Give me a drink.' For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food. The Samaritan woman said to him: `How is it that you, a Jew, ask a drink of me, a woman of Samaria?' For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans" (John 4:7--9)."
 
The events described, when read in context, are quite different. This time Muller does offer a citation, to "Burnouf, Introduction a l'Histoire du Buddhisme, p. 205." He does not cite a date, but I have been able to determine it is the 1844 printing. It should be noted, however, that the above citation incorrectly claims that the woman was named Matangi. This was actually the group she was a member of, but her name is identified by Burnouf as Prakriti ("Prakriti, c'est le nom de la jeune fille"), also rendered as Prakṛti by some. In fairness, this error does go back to Muller rather than Doane, as Muller incorrectly indicates that Matangi was her name in his work.

Now let's look at Burnouf. What is his source? He offers as a citation "Cardula karna, dans Divya avadana, f. 217a". This refers to the Sardulakarna-avadana, the 33rd part of the Divyavadana, a collection of various Buddhist stories. Unfortunately, while some sections of the Divyavadana have been translated into English, this portion does not seem to have been. Still, Burnouf does offer a synopsis of the story in French. However, if one prefers an English source describing it, this is discussed on pages 242-245 of  the article "A Rite of Their Own: Japanese Buddhist Nuns and the "Anan kōshiki" by Barbara R. Ambros in the Japanese Journal of Religious Studies, Volume 43, Number 1 (2016). While this does primarily discuss a retelling of the story by Shundo Aoyama, it does mention the differences between that retelling and the original version, so the reader can see exactly what happened in the original. Once the specifics of the story are examined, we can see the stories really have little in common.

In the Gospel of John, after the woman says Jews do not associate with Samaritans, the request for the water is put aside and Jesus begins a discussion of how Jesus will provide living water, and then there is a brief prophetic discourse and a declaration of Jesus's status as the messiah. The woman then goes to her village to tell people what she heard, and Jesus is welcomed among the Samaritans to stay for several days.

In the Buddhist story, however, things go very differently. After Ananda's encounter with the woman, the woman falls in love with Ananda and with the help of her mother attempts to use magic to try to make Ananda fall in love with her. This initially works and Ananda travels to her house, but he is able to recognize the enchantment in time and calls on Buddha to dispel the charm. After being freed from the charm, Ananda leaves. The woman, still in love with Ananda, ends up talking with Buddha himself about it, but he persuades her that she should give up on him and join the celibate religious life instead.

As we can see, when examined in full context, these are dramatically different situations. 

As if that was not enough, the Divyavadana is not early enough that we can be confident that the story predates the Gospels. I looked at several sources to see what they said about the dating.

In the introduction to "Heavenly Exploits", a 2005 translation of a few portions of Divyavadana by Joel Tatelman, he says (page 18) "While the Divya'/āvadāna as we have it may have been compiled as late as the eighth century, many of the stories may date back to the beginning of the Common Era."

In "Divine Stories: Divyavadana, Part 1", a 2008 translation of a translation of portions of the Divyavadana (regrettably, it does not include a translation of the section in question), the translator Andy Rotman says at the start of the introduction: "The Divyavadana ("Divine Stories") is a large compendium of Indian Buddhist narratives written in Sanskrit from the early centuries of the Common Era."

In the article "The story of Dharmaruci: In the "Divyavadana" and Ksemendra's "Bodhisattvavadanakalpalata" from Volume 51 No. 2 (2008) of the Indo-Iranian Journal, it is stated on page 138 that: "As is well known, the Divyavadana is a repository of tales extracted, in most but perhaps not absolutely all cases, from the Vinaya of the Mulasarvastivada sect. While the date of the latter corpus is uncertain, it most likely belongs to the first centuries of the common era. The Divyavadana–which may more properly bear the title Divyavadanamala–in contrast, is probably considerably later, although here too we have few clues on the basis of which we might hazard an estimate as to its age. However, it is quite clear that the collection existed in some form by the eleventh century, the time to which the Kashmiri poet Ksemendra belongs."

In "Institutional and Ideological Usage of Dana in Divyavadana" (from Proceedings Volume 50, Golden Jubilee Session (1989)), on page 88 it says: "The Buddhist Sanskrit text, the Divyavadana is a product of the 4th century A.D."

Thus this would put its composition later than the Gospels. While it is possible the story itself goes back to, or even predates, the Gospels, such is speculative--and in any event, the story deviates markedly from what we see in the Gospels.

"Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth. (Beal, p. x; Matthew 4:17.)"

The "kingdom of heaven" is a supposition made by Beal and seems not based on any Buddhist text. Said inference is instead based on Beal saying Buddha "wanted to establish a "Religious Kingdom" (Dharmachakra)". No citation is offered, and furthermore Dharmachakra means not religious kingdom, but wheel of dharma. With access to the bibliography we can figure this out. With the bibliography information it's confirmed to be "The Romantic Legend of Sakya Buddha from the Chinese Sanskrit" by Samuel Beal. In the introduction, Beal refers to "the aim of Buddha to establish a "Religious Kingdom" (Dharmachakra), i.e. a "Kingdom of Heaven.""
 
There are a number of problems with citing this, however. The inference that a religious kingdom is the same as a kingdom of heaven is simply an assertion made by Beal himself; thus, the claim that "Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth" appears to come not from an actual Buddhist text using the phrase, but Beal's inference. If it is from a Buddhist text, Beal does not seem to provide a clear citation as to where Buddha establishing a religious kingdom comes from, let alone how he gets from that to a kingdom of heaven.
 
Beal also appears to claim that "Dharmachakra" means religious kingdom, but it does not. It is a Sanskrit term that means "wheel of dharma", and the wheel is a major symbol of Buddhism. This has nothing to do with a religious kingdom. Beal appears to have known Chinese very well (his writings were based on Chinese Buddhist texts), but it seems his knowledge of Sanskrit was lacking.
 
Even if we accept that Buddha did have the goal of establishing a religious kingdom (which Beal doesn't offer a direct citation for, but rather his interpretation), we still run into the problem that it takes a considerable stretch to turn "religious kingdom" into "kingdom of heaven" and that the source that does so is not any Buddhist religious text but rather the apparent supposition of Beal.

 
"Both are said to have known the thoughts of others: "By directing his mind to the thoughts of others, [Buddha] can know the thoughts of all beings." (R. Spence Hardy, The Legends and Theories of the Buddhists Compared with History and Science (London, 1866), p. 181.) "But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said: `Why do you think evil in your hearts?' " (Matthew 9:4)."

Although not as bad as many of the parallels examined, there are still notable differences. The context in Hardy's work is actually about Buddhists priests, not Buddha himself. Anyway, he identifies his source as as "the Suttanta called Samanya Phala, or the advantages of the priesthood" which is more commonly rendered in modern English as the "Samaññaphala Sutta" and the translation as Fruits of the Contemplative Life. I consulted an English translation of this work by Thanissaro Bhikku. However, when comparing his translation with what Hardy writes in his book, it seems Hardy's rendering is really more of a paraphrase than a translation. Nevertheless, the essence is the same, and although it is discussing what followers of Buddha could supposedly obtain, this is being stated by Buddha, so one could accept that this was a power of his.

Still, not only is the context different, there is nothing explicitly stated to be supernatural in Matthew 9:4, which could have simply been ascertained using regular human knowledge. Even if it was supernatural, the ability to know people's thoughts is already a power referred to in the Old Testament (such as Psalm 139:2 which, referring to God, says "you perceive my thoughts from afar"). If this mention of Jesus knowing others' thoughts was supernatural and taken from or influenced by anything, the Old Testament would seem a more plausible source for this than a Buddhist work.


"Both received similar receptions: "The people swept the pathway, the gods strewed flowers on the pathway and branches of the coral tree, the men bore branches of all manner of trees, and the Bodhisattva Sumedha spread his garments in the mire, [and] men and gods shouted: `All hail.' " (Hardy, Legends, p.134) "And they brought the colt to Jesus, and threw their garments on it; and he sat on it. And many spread their garments on the road, and others spread leafy branches which they had cut from the fields" (Mark 11:7--8)."

Much of this is actually invented out of whole cloth by Drazin, and is found in neither Hardy's work nor even Doane's work citing Hardy. When traced back to the original sources, the similarities are far fewer. Also, why try to find a Buddhist source when this is blatantly inspired by the Old Testament? The quotation marks used in the comparison list indicate that this is supposed to be an actual quotation; it even uses the bracketed "[and]" to demonstrate that this is supposed to be an exact quotation with the exception of the word "and". Yet this quote is not found on that applicable page of Hardy's work. This is the closest thing that he says:

"The horse Kantako, upon which Buddha rode, when he fled from the palace to become an ascetic, was 36 feet long (from its neck to its tail); in the same night it proceeded 300 miles, and could have gone much further, if its progress had not been impeded by the number of flowers thrown in its pathway by the déwas; and at one leap it crossed the river Anoma, a distance of 210 feet."
 
As we can see, this is dramatically different from the quote offered by the list. There is no mention of people sweeping a pathway, no mention of branches, no mention of spreading of garments, and no mention of anyone shouting "all hail." The mention of gods presumably refers to the dewas (more commonly called devas nowadays), though they, while supernatural beings, to my knowledge are not technically speaking gods.

I have noted that these citations of older books are almost all taken from T.W. Doane's book "Bible Myths" and this one is no exception. Normally, because they are simply taken from Doane, the misrepresentations or errors we see generally trace back to Doane. But in this case, this list adds its own claims that are not found even in Doane's work. Doane's statement, which he cites to Hardy's work, is simply to claim, with the same sources given:

"When Buddha was about to become an ascetic, and when riding on the horse "Kantako," his path was strewn with flowers, thrown there by Devas."
Which he compares to:
"When Jesus was entering Jerusalem, riding on an ass, his path was strewn by palm branches, thrown there by the multitude."
 
So where did our list-maker get the claims about (in Buddha's case) people sweeping the pathway, men bearing branches of trees while spreading garments in the mire, and people shouting "all hail" come from? As noted, it isn't in Hardy's work, nor does Doane seem to refer to it. As no source is cited apart from Hardy (which was simply taken from Doane), this additional material appears to be pure invention by the author of this list.
 
But what of the more narrow claim that Doane offered? The problem is that as we can see, the circumstances are dramatically different. Jesus is entering Jerusalem and being welcomed, whereas Buddha is sneaking out of the palace. They are riding different animals (one a horse, the other a donkey), the beings that are around are different (humans in the case of Jesus, supernatural beings in the case of Buddha), and the plants were different (flowers compared with palm branches). The parallel based on Hardy's work essentially is just "they both rode an animal at one point and a group put plants on the road."

Yet even that vague parallel offered may be more specific than it actually is. Hardy does not provide a specific reference for where that claim of the plants being on the road comes from. Where is it from? It could be his own speculation. Alternatively, it may have been from another source--but without that source cited, we have no idea where it is.
 
Earlier, when discussing Mara confronting Buddha when Buddha left the palace, I noted that the Buddhacarita/Buddhacharita and Lalitavistara Sūtra, earlier biographies of Buddha, made no mention whatsoever of Mara appearing at this point. But they did describe Buddha leaving the palace. Thus we can look to see what they say. What was their description of these events? The Buddhacharita (early second century AD) mentions how "Yakṣas" threw lotuses, but nothing about them putting them on any road. The Lalitavistara Sūtra (third century AD) mentions flowers falling without specification of anyone throwing them, but again nothing about them falling onto any road or path. Perhaps one could assume that is where the flowers ended up, but there is no statement of such. 

So what, ultimately, can we conclude from all of this? Well, the Buddhacarita and Lalitavistara Sūtra both come after the Gospels, even if not by that much in the case of the Buddhacarita. Nevertheless, it is possible this portion of their stories predates them (though it would have to predate them by quite a bit to have even the slightest hope of being known to the Gospel writers). But in these early sources, the best parallel that can be managed is that both Jesus and Buddha rode an animal at one point and there was a group with plants (which may have also put them on the road in the Buddhist story, but is unclear). But the animals were different, the context was different, the group was different, and the plants were different.
 
Additionally, we should note that Jesus riding into Jerusalem on a donkey is a fairly obvious reference to Zechariah 9:9 of the Old Testament; indeed, Matthew 21:4-5 and John 12:14-15 explicitly reference it. Why should we be trying to find some connection to a Buddhist text when the actual source is so obvious?


"After "healing" a man born blind, Buddha said: "The disease of this man originates in his sinful actions in former times." (Prof. Max Muller, ed., Sacred Books of the East (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1879--1910), vol. 21, p. 129f.) "As [Jesus] passed by, he saw a man blind from his birth. And his disciples said to him: `Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?' " (John 9:1--2)."
 
The examination Holding did already addressed much of this, but it gets even worse in that Muller's work is misrepresented. In his examination of the list, Holding rebutted this by arguing that even if true it doesn't work as a parallel. That could serve as a response enough, but when I looked this up out of curiosity, I discovered it was also quite misrepresented on top of that. What actually happens in the cited work is that Buddha is asked a question and, by way of parable, describes a situation in which a man was blind, but a physician cures him after getting the right herbs. It does mention (on page 130) that a man born blind has it from his sins in his former life, but that's the statement of the physician in the parable. Further, the doctor makes this statement prior to curing it (in contrast to the above claim, which says that it was after healing). In fact, the doctor says it prior to even going off to find the herbs that might cure it. So the above description is just wrong in its claim that Buddha cured someone of blindness and made that statement; it wasn't Buddha who did it but a character in a parable, the statement was given before curing rather than after, and it was an offhand statement that didn't seem to relate to the main point being made. And this is on top of the problems already identified by Holding.

It has been noted that the various 19th century citations seem to simply curbed from Doane without double-checking his sources. This one, however, does not come appear to come from Doane, as it was released a few years after Doane's work (it was released in 1884, while Doane's was from 1882). I do not know whether the author of this list actually looked at this work himself or simply relied on someone else's citation of Muller, but in any event there is a clear misrepresentation here on top of the weakness of the parallel to begin with.


"Both demanded that their disciples renounce all worldly possessions. (Hardy, Monachism, p. 6; Luke 14:33.)"
 
Too common of a moral guideline to prove influence, and one has to stretch the text a little to get to the above interpretation. I do not see a statement on this page that they must renounce all worldly possessions in the source offered. It does say that his followers "took upon themselves certain obligations, by which they declared themselves to be prawarjita, or to have renounced the world." This obviously indicates a detachment from the world, but not necessarily a full renunciation of all worldly possessions. But let us accept they did. As noted in Holding's response, the suggestion of forsaking possessions is too common of a moral guideline to try to prove copying or influence with.


"Before his death, Buddha said to his disciple: "Ananda, when I am gone, you must not think there is no Buddha; the discourses I have delivered, and the precepts I have enjoined, must be my successors, or representatives, and be to you as Buddha." (Hardy, Eastern Monachism (London, 1860), p. 230.) Before his "ascension," Jesus said to his disciples: "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and, lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age" (Matthew 28:19--20)."
 
What religious leader doesn't tell their followers to continue to follow their teachings? This one is found there. However, what religious leader doesn't exhort their followers to continue to follow their teachings after they have died? This is so universal it cannot qualify as any kind of proof of copying.

 
"Each repeated a question three times: "The Buddha next addressed the bhikkhus and requested them three times to ask him if they had any doubt or question that they wished clarified, but they all remained silent." (Encyclopedia Britannica (New York: William and Helen Benton, 1974), vol. 2, p. 373.) "[Jesus] said to him the third time: `Simon, son of John, do you love me?' Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time: `Do you love me?'" (John 21:17)."

The question asked is considerably different, the context is different, and Buddha actually asks four times. This quote is indeed found in the Encyclopedia Britannica (Macropedia edition) on this page, but is in volume THREE, not volume two. The context here is that it is describing the conversations Buddha had while on his deathbed, and it says:

"The Buddha next addressed the bhikkhus and requested them three times to ask him if they had any doubt or question that they wished clarified, but they all remained silent. The Buddha then addressed the bhikkhus: "Then, bhikkhus, I address you now: transient are all conditioned things. Try to accomplish your aim with diligence." These were the last words of the Tathāgata. A week later, his body was cremated by the Mallas in Kusinārā."

No source is cited directly for it, though there is a bibliography at the end of the article which among other works mentions that the Mahaparinibbana-sutta, "The Book of the Great Decease", describes the death of Buddha. I found a translated English version, and this does seem to be what is being referred to.

However, we end up with a parallel only by ignoring important details. We can see this even in the representation the list gives, as Buddha asked this on his deathbed while Jesus did so after the Resurrection. The question asked is completely different, with Buddha asking if they wanted clarification on anything, whereas Jesus asked Peter for confirmation that Peter loved Jesus. The responses are different; Peter answers yes and Jesus gives him additional instructions, whereas the monks are silent to Buddha's questions.
 
But someone may still cling to the "same question three times" parallel, even if the specifics are different. However, if we examine the original source, even the supposed parallel of asking three times is not true, because Buddha actually asks four times. This is from a translation of the Mahaparinibbanasutta (or Mahāparinibbāṇa Sutta) by Bhikkhu Sujato:

"Then the Buddha said to the mendicants, “Perhaps even a single mendicant has doubt or uncertainty regarding the Buddha, the teaching, the Saṅgha, the path, or the practice. So ask, mendicants! Don’t regret it later, thinking: ‘We were in the Teacher’s presence and we weren’t able to ask the Buddha a question.’”
When this was said, the mendicants kept silent.
For a second time, and a third time the Buddha addressed the mendicants: “Perhaps even a single mendicant has doubt or uncertainty regarding the Buddha, the teaching, the Saṅgha, the path, or the practice. So ask, mendicants! Don’t regret it later, thinking: ‘We were in the Teacher’s presence and we weren’t able to ask the Buddha a question.’”
For a third time, the mendicants kept silent. Then the Buddha said to the mendicants,
“Mendicants, perhaps you don’t ask out of respect for the Teacher. So let a friend tell a friend.”
When this was said, the mendicants kept silent."

So after receiving no response after the first three attempts, Buddha rephrases his question to ask it for a fourth time. Thus even the alleged similarity of asking a question three times does not hold up under scrutiny.


"Both had a disciple who "walked" on water: To convert skeptical villagers, Buddha showed them his disciple walking across a river without sinking. (Lillie, p. 140) "He said: `Come.' So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus, but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out: `Lord, save me!' " (Matthew 14:29--30)."

This source comes from the post-Christian period. Lillie only vaguely cites the "Chinese Dhammapada" so Holding was unable to look it up. But with more information available online now, I was able to figure it out. This one refers to the book "Texts from the Buddhist Canon, commonly known as Dhammapada" by Samuel Beal and the account is found on pages 50-51. This is a translation of the Chinese Dhammapada, which itself is a translation of the Dhammapada, a Buddhist text. There is no other English translation of the Chinese Dhammapada I am aware of, so this is what we will use. There are certainly multiple translations of the normal Dhammapada, but not the Chinese Dhammapada.
 
The scenarios already have some differences in the specifics (for example, Buddha's disciple never has any crisis of faith), but there is a larger problem. The Chinese Dhammapada, a translation into Chinese of the original Dhammapada, adds 13 chapters that are not in the original Dhammapada, as Beal notes in the preface of his work. The chapter this story is found in (Chapter 4) is one of them.

Beal says at the start of his preface that the first translation performed was was "in the Wu dynasty, about the beginning of the second century of the Christian era." In other words, this information was added after the Gospels were written. Beal suggests that the information could have been from older sources, but even if so, it would have had to have been old enough that the information could plausibly have made it all across the language and geographic barrier to where the Gospels were written to have any influence.
 
However, as it turns out, the water walking story seems to be be even later than that. The above information was about the first translation. But Beal is not translating from that. Rather, he is translating from the second version of the Chinese Dhammapada, as he explains further in his preface:

"The English version which follows is not made from the Text we have just considered, but from another about which I now proceed to speak. The "Fa-kheu-pi-u,"–i.e. parables connected with the book of scriptural texts–was translated by two Shamans of the western Tsin dynasty (A.D. 265 to A.D. 313). As its name denotes, it contains certain parables, or tales, connected with the verses which follow them, and which prompted their delivery."

This then raises the following question: Was the mention of walking on water in the original early second century Chinese Dhammapada, or was it only added in the second version, which came from the third or fourth century? The fact he mentions how the second version adds parables and tales connected with the verses that follow them would seem to indicate that this story about water walking was added there, as it is followed by verses. Unfortunately, as there is no English translation of this first version of the Chinese Dhammapada to compare, it is difficult to check.

Thankfully, I was able to find a later article that discussed the matter. Specifically, this is "On the Chinese Dhammapada with Special Reference to the Preface Attached Thereto" from The Annals of the Hitotsubashi Academy, Vol. 9, No. 1 (October 1958), pages 109-121. On page 119, we see the following useful remark. After discussing the original version of the Chinese Dhammapada (the Fa-chu-ching), it says:

"So much for the formation of the Fa-chu-ching. Now the Chinese Dhammapada, as has been explained, is a collection of verses only. There is another scripture to go with this which contains verses together with annotations and stories. It is called Fa-chū-p'i-yu-ching. This is the translation done by Fa-Chū and fa-li of the Western Tsin Dynasty in the reign of Emperor Hui (290 A.D. -306 A.D.). It comprises 4 books which contain 39 chapters. In each chapter some stories, varying from 1 to 6, are inserted."

This adds clarification. It tells us that the first Chinese Dhammapada is a collection of verses only (that is, not a narrative). That would mean the water walking story would not be there. It is the second version, translated by Beal (the article even confirms that the Fa-chū-p'i-y-ching was the version translated by Beal), which added in the stories. And this version comes from around the year 300 AD. This is two centuries after the Gospels. 
 
Even if we do grant that it is simply writing down a story that was known previously, for this to have been the source of the Gospel story, it not only has to be old enough that it was in existence at the time of the Gospels being written (two centuries prior), it would have had to be even older than that to make the journey over to where the Gospels were written. Even then the Gospel writers would have had to have known of this apparently obscure story that was not found in the original Dhammapada or even the original Chinese Dhammapada. The likelihood of all of this is rather low.

CONCLUSION:

Between the original examination and this addendum, the list can be considered quite discredited. Also discredited are T.W. Doane who came up with most of it and its errors; Michoel Drazin who just copied Doane, apparently without checking on his sources, while adding in some of his own errors; and those who simply copy and distribute Drazin's list without doing verification themselves. Indeed, the error on Somadeva, claiming a Hindu writer was a Buddhist holy book, is perhaps enough by itself to show their ignorance. Such an error is downright embarrassing, to say nothing of their absurd claim that an alleged parallel between Somadeva's work and the Gospels proves copying on the part of Christians when Somadeva lived a thousand years after the Gospels were written.
 
Once examined, almost all of the alleged parallels fall into at least one of the following categories: Simply made up, misrepresented, too vague to count as an actual parallel, virtually universal to major religious figures, recorded too late to be considered to have any influence on the Gospels, or without any primary source that can be checked.
 
After we dispense with all of those, we're ultimately left with at best a few that could be considered a genuine parallel (though even then with differences). However, at that point the handful of similarities can be most plausibly chalked up to simple coincidence.

For a example of how someone can find notable similarities that are obviously simple coincidences between individuals, consider the cases of Julius Caesar and Abraham Lincoln. Both worked as lawyers. Both became leaders of large countries. Both won a civil war. Both were assassinated, and in each case the assassin was part of a larger conspiracy of plotters. Both died at a very similar age (Lincoln at 56, Caesar at 55). Both died on the 15th day of a month. Coins were minted with their faces on them for both. Both made adjustments to the calendar (Julius Caesar by introducing the Julian Calendar, Lincoln by setting a fixed time for Thanksgiving).
 
But it would be absurd to claim that the life of Abraham Lincoln was taken from that of Julius Caesar. Similarly, once we come down to only the things that could plausibly be considered actual parallels between Jesus and Buddha, we end up with parallels of no greater strength than what has just been noted between Abraham Lincoln and Julius Caesar.
 
Hopefully this was useful to people. If one is to take any lesson from this (outside of the fact that one should be extremely cautious trusting the claims of Doane or Drazin), it would be the importance of checking sources and not simply copying and pasting them uncritically.

Friday, December 30, 2022

False Pope Nicholas I Quotes

For a while I've been wanting to make a post of a bunch of quotes I see copied and pasted online repeatedly and whether they are accurate, but (as with many things) keep procrastinating despite having a number of them. In an effort to try to get some of my information out, I'm going to make this post on an individual I've seen such quotes posted of, namely Pope Nicholas I (or "Nicholas the Great").

Originally this was just going to be the first four quotes I'm going to list, as I hadn't seen anyone else do an examination of them (the others I list I have seen discussed online, so the information was already there). However, I figured as long as I'm talking about false quotes attributed to Nicholas, I decided to throw in a few more I've seen attributed to him that others have checked on, just for easier reference.

I know some people might want quick answers on whether they're legitimate or not, so before going through my often lengthy explanations of my investigations, I'll first list them with a quick note as to my conclusions, and then list them in more depth afterwards.  

#1: "I glorify you for having maintained your authority by putting to death those wandering sheep who refused to enter the fold; and you not only have not sinned, by showing a holy rigour, but I even congratulate you on having opened the kingdom of heaven to the people submitted to your rule. A king need not fear to command massacres, when these will retain his subjects in obedience, or cause them to submit to the faith of Christ; and God will reward him in this world, and in eternal life, for these murders." (attributed to "Louis-Marie de Lahaye Cormenin, A Complete History of the Popes of Rome (J. & J. L. Gihon, 1851): 244") This quote is found in the cited book, but despite the book presenting it as a legitimate quote, it is at best a very inaccurate paraphrase.

#2: "You affirm that you are submissive to your sovereign, in order to obey the words of the apostle Peter, who said, ‘Be subject to the prince, because he is above all mortals in this world.’ But you appear to forget that we, as the vicar of Christ, have the right to judge all men: thus, before obeying kings, you owe obedience to us; and if we declare a monarch guilty, you should reject him from your communion until we pardon him.
We alone have the power to bind and to loose, to absolve Nero and to condemn him; and Christians can not, under penalty of excommunication, execute other judgment than ours, which alone is infallible. People are not the judges of their princes; they should obey without murmuring the most iniquitous orders; they should bow their foreheads under the chastisements which it pleases kings to inflict on them, for a sovereign can violate the fundamental laws of the State, and seize upon the wealth of the citizen, by imposts or by confiscations; he can even dispose of their lives, without any of his subjects having the right to address to him simple remonstrances. But if we declare a king heretical and sacrilegious, if we drive him from the Church, clergy and laity, whatever their rank, are freed from their oaths of fidelity, and may revolt against his power."
(attributed to "Louis-Marie de Lahaye Cormenin, A Complete History of the Popes of Rome (J. & J. L. Gihon, 1851): 242") Given the inaccuracy in the first quote from this source, one should be skeptical of trusting anything else it gives without a clear citation on its part (which it does not offer). However, a search through a collection of Nicholas's letters in the original Latin for "Nero" (and other associated forms of the name) turns up zero relevant matches, indicating that this is probably either a fabrication or inaccurate paraphrase.

#3: "We order you, in the name of religion, to invade his states, burn his cities, and massacre his people, whom we render responsible for the resistance of their bad prince." (attributed to "Louis-Marie de Lahaye Cormenin, A Complete History of the Popes of Rome (J. & J. L. Gihon, 1851): 242") Given the issues with the prior two quotes from this source, there is little reason to grant this one credence either (especially given how vague A Complete History of the Popes of Rome's own citation is).

#4: "Know, prince, that the vicars of Christ (the popes) are above the judgment of mortals, and that the most powerful sovereigns have no right to punish the crimes of popes, how enormous soever they may be….; for no matter how scandalous or criminal may be the debaucheries of the pontiffs, you should obey them, for they are seated on the chair of St. Peter.
Fear, then, our wrath and the thunders of our vengeance, for Jesus Christ has appointed us with his own mouth absolute judges of all men, and kings themselves are submitted to our authority."
(attributed to "Louis-Marie de Lahaye Cormenin, A Complete History of the Popes of Rome (J. & J. L. Gihon, 1851): 243") Given the issues with the first two quotes from this source, there is little reason to grant this one credence either (especially given how vague its own citation is). I still did attempt to find matches, but none came up.

#5: "I am in all and above all, so that God himself, and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory…and I am able to do almost all that God can do…I then, being above all…seem by this reason, to be above all gods." (attributed to: "The Church Historians of England: Reformation Period," by Josiah Pratt, pub. 1856, p.159) This is not a quote from Nicholas. This comes from an essay attacking Catholicism written from the point of view of a hypothetical pope, and none of the things quoted here are actual quotes from Nicholas.

#6: "Wherefore, No marvel if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea, with the precepts of Christ." (attributed to: "The Church Historians of England: Reformation Period," by Josiah Pratt, pub. 1856, p.159) Same as above, this is not a quote from Nicholas. This comes from an essay attacking Catholicism written from the point of view of a hypothetical pope, and none of the things quoted here are actual quotes from Nicholas.

#7: "The appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man." (attributed to: Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can 7 Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para) This one appears to be a mistranslation.

Thus as we can see, none of these seem to be actual quotes from Nicholas save for perhaps the last one, but a mistranslation would still seem to be a misquote. But now let us look into them in more detail.

#1: "I glorify you for having maintained your authority by putting to death those wandering sheep who refused to enter the fold; and you not only have not sinned, by showing a holy rigour, but I even congratulate you on having opened the kingdom of heaven to the people submitted to your rule. A king need not fear to command massacres, when these will retain his subjects in obedience, or cause them to submit to the faith of Christ; and God will reward him in this world, and in eternal life, for these murders." (attributed to "Louis-Marie de Lahaye Cormenin, A Complete History of the Popes of Rome (J. & J. L. Gihon, 1851): 244")

Before discussing anything else, I want to note an error in this citation, though this error is the fault of the cited work. The title page of A Complete History of the Popes says it is "translated from the French of Louis Marie de Cormenin." Here's the problem: Louie Marie de Cormenin, while a real French person, didn't write this. Rather, it is translated from a French work entitled "Histoire des Papes" by Maurice de la Chatre (also known as Maurice Lachatre), someone else entirely. I suppose it doesn't make all that much of a difference who wrote the original for our purposes, but I felt it was worth noting.

Now, the quote immediately under discussion appears to be the most popular of the quotes taken from the work, and what appears to have popularized this quote is that it is offered in A Woman Rides the Beast by Dave Hunt (a book attacking Catholicism), though he offers a slightly different version of this quote. On page 125 of his work, his version reads:

"I glorify you for having maintained your authority by putting to death those wandering sheep who refuse to enter the fold; and . . . congratulate you upon having opened the kingdom of heaven to the people submitted to your rule. A king need not fear to command massacres, when these will retain his subjects in obedience, or cause them to submit to the faith of Christ; and God will reward him in this world, and in eternal life, for these murders."

However, Dave Hunt doesn't appear to have read the original A Complete History of the Popes of Rome himself, as he cites R.W. Thompson's book The Papacy and the Civil Power (page 244, at least in the version I consulted) as itself citing A Complete History of the Popes of Rome. One will also notice the above one (aside from the ellipses) is slightly different; another difference is that it says "refuse" instead of "refused."

This discrepancy comes from the indirect source. The Papacy and the Civil Power, citing A Complete History of the Popes, slightly changes the original quote (perhaps by a typographical error), reading "refuse" instead of the original "refused." Since Dave Hunt took the quote from that work, he also used "refuse". Thus the quotes you can see online can sometimes differ slightly based on whether they are using the original quotation, The Papacy and the Civil Power's version (which despite the minor altering gives the full quote), or Dave Hunt's quotation (which is the same as that, though it cuts off part with the ellipsis).

Now, it is true that this quote is found in A Complete History of the Popes on the applicable page, along with a number of other quotes it attributes to Nicholas, including the others under examination. The quote that is distributed does strike off a bit of the beginning that shows what is being discussed, though, which gives a little more context. Right before the standard quote that is distributed, it says:

"The letter of the pope contained one hundred and six articles, drawn from the Roman laws and the Institutes of Justinian. Nicholas professes in this recital a singular mentality: "You advise us," he says, to the Bulgarian king, that "you have caused your subjects to be baptized without their consent, and that you have exposed yourself to so violent a revolt as to have incurred the risk of your life."

Following that, it goes on to give the rest of the quote, beginning with "I glorify you" and ending with "these murders."

But now we come to the critical point. Is this quote accurate? It is true that it's found in A Complete History of the Popes (as well as its original French version), but is that work quoting it right? Well, A Complete History of the Popes claims it's found in his letter to the king of Bulgaria that contains "one hundred and six articles". There is only one letter of Nicholas's that fits that description, and thankfully there is a full English translation by W.L. North of it, which is even available for free online:

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/866nicholas-bulgar.asp

But here is where we run into a problem. I cannot find the applicable quote in the letter. Yes, I would not expect it to be the the same word-for-word quote given that there would be differences in translation, but even taking that into account, I simply see nothing that matches up with it. Frustratingly, A Complete History of the Popes does not save us time by saying which of the one hundred and six articles is in view, but having looked through the entire letter, I do not see anything that corresponds.

The closest thing I can find is #17 (XVII), but it seems to actually say the opposite. I will quote it in its entirety. The bolding is my own, whereas the italics and brackets are original to the English translation:

"Now then, you have told us about how you received the Christian religion by divine clemency and made your entire people be baptized, and how these people, after they had been baptized, rose up unanimously and fiercely against you, claiming that you had not given them a good law and also wishing to kill you and establish another king; and how you, having been readied against them with the help of divine power, conquered them from the greatest to the least and held them captives in your hands, and how all the leaders and magnates along with every one of their children were slaughtered by the sword, though the mediocre and lesser persons suffered no evil. Now you desire to know whether you have contracted any sin on account of those who were deprived of their lives. Clearly what you did not escape without sin nor could have happened without your fault, was that a child who was not privy to their parents' plot nor is proven to have born arms against you, was slaughtered along with the guilty, although innocent. For after the Psalmist said: I shall not go to my seat in the counsel of vanity and with people who do iniquitous deeds, I have hated the gatherings of the wicked and I shall not sit with the impious, [Ps. 25:4-5] he says a little while later in this regard, while praying to the Lord: Do not destroy my soul with the impious nor my life with the men of blood.[Ps. 25:9] Furthermore, the Lord declares through the prophet Ezechiel, saying: Just as the soul of the father is mine, so, too, the soul of the son: only the soul that has sinned shall perish;[Ez. 18:4] and a little later he speaks about the father: But he bore a son, who, when he saw all the sins which his father had done, was afraid and did not do anything like them, he did not eat upon the mountain nor lift his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, he did not violated the wife of his neighbor or trouble the husband, he did not keep surety nor commit robbery, he gave his own bread to the hungry and covered the naked with clothing, turned his hand from the injury of the poor man, did not accept usury and any superabundance, judged my judgments, and walked in my commandments: this man shall not die in the iniquity of his father, but shall live with life. His father, because he falsely accused and did violence against his brother and did evil in the midst of his people, behold he died in his own iniquity. And you say: Why does the son not bear the iniquity of the father? Because his son did judgment and justice, kept all my commandments and carried them out, he shall live in life. Only the soul that has sinned shall die: the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father and the father shall not bear the iniquity of the son.[Ez. 18:14-20] You also should have acted with greater mildness concerning the parents who were captured, that is, [you should have] spared their lives for the love of the God Who delivered them into your hands. For thus you might be able to say to God without hesitation in the Lord's prayer: Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.[Mt. 6:12] But you also could have saved those who died while fighting, but you did not permit them to live nor did you wish to save them, and in this you clearly did not act on good advice; for it is written: There shall be judgment without mercy for the person, who does not exercise mercy;[James 2:13] and through the abovementioned prophet the Lord says: Is it my will that the wicked man should die, sayeth the Lord God, and not that he be converted from his ways and may live?[Ez. 18:23] But because you erred more because of your zeal for the Christian religion and your ignorance than because of any other vice, with subsequent penance seek mercy and indulgence for these sins through the grace of Christ."

One can certainly see some similarities between the above and the quote that A Complete History of the Popes offers. Both refer to him baptizing his people, them rising up against him, and him putting down the rebellion harshly. Based on that, one would think this is what is in mind... the problem is, while entreating on similar subject matters, their essence is rather different. The one cited in A Complete History of the Popes has Nicholas commend the king for killing people and that he will be rewarded for it by God, but in the actual letter Nicholas scolds the king for being too harsh in putting down the rebellion and says he has committed sin as a result and should do penance! This is the opposite of what the quote that A Complete History of the Popes has him say! Just to be sure that it was not the above one that was in error, I consulted the Latin to be sure (one can find it at https://books.google.com/books?id=ZR5PAQAAMAAJ on page 577). My Latin is basic, but it appears to match the above text.

If this was the section of Nicholas's letter in view in A Complete History of the Popes, then the "translation" that A Complete History of the Popes offers is not a translation at all, but a paraphrase--and an inaccurate one at that. (Note I refer not to the French to English translation, which as far as I am aware is fine aside from incorrectly ascribing the book to Cormenin, but rather it being a translation from the Latin into French) But if that section is not what is in view, then I have no idea what in Nicholas's letter is being cited. Thus this appears to simply be a false quote. Nicholas did not say what he was claimed to have said, and in fact his sentiments appear to be the opposite!

Perhaps this by itself is sufficient to ignore the other quotes that come from A Complete History of the Popes that are attributed to Nicholas; if it botched this one this badly, what confidence should I have in any other quote it offers of Nicholas? It also reflects rather poorly on Dave Hunt and R.W. Thompson that they uncritically accepted this inaccurate quote rather than verifying it.

I should note that in A Complete History of the Popes, it goes on to offer a number of additional quotes from Nicholas's letter. Looking through some, while none are quite as twisted as the above, they nevertheless are not translations, but paraphrases, and often uncharitable ones at that. Yet despite them being paraphrases (and not necessarily accurate ones either) rather than translations, they are presented as the actual words of Nicholas. Again, why should we put confidence into any quotes it offers if it is, in this case when we can easily look up the original words to compare, constantly offering quotes that are at best paraphrases, at worst distortions?

#2: "You affirm that you are submissive to your sovereign, in order to obey the words of the apostle Peter, who said, ‘Be subject to the prince, because he is above all mortals in this world.’ But you appear to forget that we, as the vicar of Christ, have the right to judge all men: thus, before obeying kings, you owe obedience to us; and if we declare a monarch guilty, you should reject him from your communion until we pardon him.
We alone have the power to bind and to loose, to absolve Nero and to condemn him; and Christians can not, under penalty of excommunication, execute other judgment than ours, which alone is infallible. People are not the judges of their princes; they should obey without murmuring the most iniquitous orders; they should bow their foreheads under the chastisements which it pleases kings to inflict on them, for a sovereign can violate the fundamental laws of the State, and seize upon the wealth of the citizen, by imposts or by confiscations; he can even dispose of their lives, without any of his subjects having the right to address to him simple remonstrances. But if we declare a king heretical and sacrilegious, if we drive him from the Church, clergy and laity, whatever their rank, are freed from their oaths of fidelity, and may revolt against his power."
(attributed to "Louis-Marie de Lahaye Cormenin, A Complete History of the Popes of Rome (J. & J. L. Gihon, 1851): 242")

The credibility of A Complete History of the Pope's has been dramatically lowered given its massive errors in its first quotation we just looked at. That should make us suspicious of the other quotes it attributes to Nicholas. Certainly we should demand a very specific citation so that we can confirm it.

Unfortunately, we do not get that. According to A Complete History of the Popes, this supposedly comes from a letter Nicholas wrote to the Catholic bishops of Lorraine. With the first, it was clear what letter was being referred to due to the mention of the 106 articles; the above one is harder. Nicholas wrote a lot of letters and it is difficult to find the specific one.

However, there is strong reason to believe that this one, too, is an inaccurate paraphrase or may be entirely fabricated. One will notice that Nero is mentioned here. This is very useful, as it is easy to know how this would be written in Latin. Latin nouns and names do change spelling based on how they are used in a sentence, so we must do searches for the various forms; Nero can be written Nero, Neronis, Neroni, Neronem, Nerone, or (if there were multiple Neros) it could be Nerones, Neronum, or Neronibus. Based on how it is used in the sentence, the most likely version would be Neronem, the accusative.

So, let's pull up a collection of Nicholas's letters (Patrologia Latina Volume 119) and search for these.
https://books.google.com/books?id=7P4QAAAAYAAJ

If we do a search for Neronem, nothing shows up. If you do a search for "Nero", we get matches, but nothing like we see in the quote turns up. The only time "Nero" shows up in Nicholas's letters is in column 959 (letter LXXXVI), which is simply giving his name in a list of Roman emperors that persecuted the church; it says nothing at all about loosing, absolving, or condemning him. There are other matches for Nero, but Patrologia Latina Volume 119 includes works of other writers; this is the only match in something Nicholas wrote. As for the other forms of Nero? Only Neronis shows up, but not in Nicholas's letters, but writings of others.

But it is possible that the above collection didn't scan everything quite well. So let's look at one in a more modern typeface that would be far less likely to have that problem here, "Monumenta Germaniae Historica: Epistolae, Volume 8":
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZR5PAQAAMAAJ

This work also includes works by others, but it still has Nicholas's writings on pages 257-690. If you do a search for "Nero" in the book, it only turns up an instance on page 484 (the same letter as above, though due to different numbering it is Letter 88 of Nicholas) and the index on page 776 (which directs you to page 484). But again, this is the same letter as before, when the only usage of Nero is in a list of Roman emperors that persecuted the church. And when one searches up the other ways Nero's name could be rendered based on grammar, there are no matches. Between that and the Index only referring us to page 484, it would appear the only mention of Nero is in that letter where he appears in a list of emperors.

It seems abundantly clear that the quote simply isn't found in his letters, unless they are both missing some writing or letter of Nicholas. Normally I might grant the possibility of the search being faulty, but even the Index only gives us one instance of Nero being mentioned, and its context is completely different from the attributed quote. Perhaps, like the first one, it's loosely based on something he actually did say, but is heavily paraphrased and in doing so Nero's name got added. In such a case, it's still a false quote. And after what we saw in the first quote, why should I give it any benefit of the doubt?

#3: "We order you, in the name of religion, to invade his states, burn his cities, and massacre his people, whom we render responsible for the resistance of their bad prince." (attributed to "Louis-Marie de Lahaye Cormenin, A Complete History of the Popes of Rome (J. & J. L. Gihon, 1851): 242")

#4: "Know, prince, that the vicars of Christ (the popes) are above the judgment of mortals, and that the most powerful sovereigns have no right to punish the crimes of popes, how enormous soever they may be….; for no matter how scandalous or criminal may be the debaucheries of the pontiffs, you should obey them, for they are seated on the chair of St. Peter.
Fear, then, our wrath and the thunders of our vengeance, for Jesus Christ has appointed us with his own mouth absolute judges of all men, and kings themselves are submitted to our authority." 
(attributed to "Louis-Marie de Lahaye Cormenin, A Complete History of the Popes of Rome (J. & J. L. Gihon, 1851): 243")

I will be tackling these together. #3 is supposedly from a letter to King Charles the Bald, and in reference to the King of Lorraine; #4 is supposedly from a letter to an envoy from Constantinople.

Again, I note that the error in quote #1 give us considerable reason to be skeptical of these quotes to begin with, and #2 strongly looks to be inaccurate as well. Further, like in #2, without a more clear citation it is difficult for me to find the letters in question (if they even exist), especially #3 given its brevity. The mention of Charles the Bald narrows things down a little, but not enough given there were a bunch of letters involving him. 

I did attempt to try to search for some Latin phrases that would seem to match quotes from the letters, but did not have much success. While it is possible they are still there and I did not search for the right things, I must again note that in regards to the first two quotes, A Complete History of the Popes has shown itself to be a very dubious source when it comes to quotes from Nicholas. Thus I have little reason to give credence to these quotes until someone can show me exactly where Nicholas said these things.

#5: "I am in all and above all, so that God himself, and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory…and I am able to do almost all that God can do…I then, being above all…seem by this reason, to be above all gods." (attributed to: "The Church Historians of England: Reformation Period," by Josiah Pratt, pub. 1856, p.159)

#6: "Wherefore, No marvel if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea, with the precepts of Christ." (attributed to: "The Church Historians of England: Reformation Period," by Josiah Pratt, pub. 1856, p.159)

I will be tackling these two together. I should note, for the sake of completeness, that there are a few other versions. One is a more "complete" form of the above two:

"I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do... wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God, what do you make of me but God? Again, if prelates of the Church be called of Constantine for gods, I then being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods. Wherefore, no marvel, if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea with the precepts of Christ."

The last version to note is this one, which has more modern wording and changes it from first person to third person:

"The pope has power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ."

While I gave The Church Historians of England: Reformation Period as the citation, one can find multiple different citations for this. Sometimes you will see obscure-looking ones like "Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap" or "Decret. par. Distinct 96 ch. 7 edit. Lugo 1661", the latter of which which appears to not be the citation for the above quotes, but rather for the next one we'll look at. Some, actually don't cite the quote to Nicholas at all, but rather Boniface VIII's Unam Sanctam bull (the quote is not found there, if you are wondering).

But the true source is the one noted above, ""The Church Historians of England: Reformation Period," by Josiah Pratt, pub. 1856, p.159". Though as is common with such copy/pasted citations, that citation is incomplete; it does not mention this is in volume 4 of the work.

If we do this, we find out that the quotations are not quite accurate or are misleading. The first ellipsis in #5 is completely pointless as nothing at all is cut out--the work goes directly from "one consistory" to "and I".  The third ellipsis is very odd, as the only word that exists there is the word "prelates" and there is simply no reason to use an ellipsis to remove a single word. The only reason I can think to do that, other than simple sloppiness, is if the person who came up with this quote was trying to exaggerate things--"above all" certainly sounds like a larger claim than "above all prelates." Also, #6 (and also the alternate quote I gave) cuts out some bits itself. It says "Wherefore, no marvel, if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea, with the precepts of Christ." The actual full statement is "Wherefore no marvel, if it be in my power to change time and times, to alter and abrogate laws, to dispense with all things, yea with the precepts of Christ." Part of that is simply cut out ("to change time and times, to alter and abrogate laws"), with no usage of an ellipsis to admit that. Granted, these edits don't make too much of a difference in essence (outside of the removal of the phrase "of prelates" which makes it sound more extreme), but it certainly shows error.

But more important is what the source itself is. This part of volume 4 of The Church Historians of England: Reformation Period is an essay called "The Image of Antichrist, Exalting Himself Above All That Is Called God" which is part of the larger Acts and Monuments by John Foxe, who was strongly critical of Catholicism. This essay, which is a big attack on the papacy, is written from the point of view of a pope. Now, some parts of the essay are based on actual papal statements or writings by other Catholics. But if one looks at the essay itself and sees Foxe's citations, you will discover that nothing in the above quotes is actually something Nicholas said.

The majority of these quotes are Foxe's own statements, and the one part that actually is given a citation to show it was not his own ("so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do") comes not from Nicholas, but is a combination of separate statements that are both cited to other writers who were not even popes. Even if this is an accurate representation of their statements--the citations are vague which makes it hard to check for context--it nevertheless is not anything that Nicholas said, which is what we are concerned about here. Thus it is completely inaccurate to claim Nicholas said any of these quotes! This link goes into a bit more detail on it (in the context of looking at several alleged papal quotes):

http://www.geoffhorton.com/PapalClaims.html

Thus these are simply false quotes. Pope Nicholas never said them. They were mostly things John Foxe had his fictional pope say, with a small portion attributed by him to people who were not Nicholas.

#7: "The appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man." (attributed to: Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can 7 Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para)

The site noted immediately above (again, http://www.geoffhorton.com/PapalClaims.html) says the original Latin is "Satis evidenter ostenditur a saeculari potestate nec solvi prosus nec ligari pontificem, quem constat a pio principe Constantio Deum appellatum, cum nec posse Deum ab hominibus judicari manifestum est." It asserts the above is a mistranslation, and that a better rendering would be "the pontiff, who was called “God” by the pious prince Constantine, is neither loosened nor bound in any way by secular power, since it is manifest that God cannot be judged by men either."

I don't like to take someone else's word for it, though, so I did search up what was in mind here. The citation is saying that it's in the "Primer Para" (which I think is supposed to be Primer Pars, which means first part) of the Decretium Gratiani, specifically Distinctio 96 Canon 7, with the "Satis Evidentur" in the citation referring to the start of that section. And we can find that here on this German site:

https://geschichte.digitale-sammlungen.de/decretum-gratiani/kapitel/dc_chapter_1_1039

And we do see the Latin phrase quoted above here:

"Satis euidenter ostenditur, a seculari potestate nec solui prorsus, nec ligari Pontificem, quem constat a pio principe Constantino (quem longe superius memorauimus) Deum appellatum, cum nec posse Deum ab hominibus iudicari manifestum sit."

This one is slightly different from the quote given by the site that examined the quote, though not in any important way. Some of the spellings are a little different (they may have simply been based on different manuscripts or printings), and this one does add in "quem longe superius memorauimus", but otherwise it is the same basic Latin text and with the same essence. Thus the objection that it was being mistranslated seems to hold up.

But there is an additional issue that site (http://www.geoffhorton.com/PapalClaims.html) does not explicitly note. The original uses "pontificem" (accusative form of pontifex, which means pontiff). The Latin term pontifex means a high-ranking member of the clergy; the pope is a pontifex, but is not the only one. Thus to translate "pontifex" as "pope" as the alleged quote does is inaccurate.

This is especially apparent in context. Here is the background as I understand it: Ignatius, the Patriarch of Constantinople, had been deposed by the emperor and replaced with Photius. Nicholas was critical of this, saying that the emperor had no business interfering like that. As part of his argument, he asserts that secular powers could not judge bishops in such a manner, offering the quote of "the pontiff, who was called “God” by the pious prince Constantine, is neither loosened nor bound in any way by secular power, since it is manifest that God cannot be judged by men either." This controversy was over the Patriarch of Constantinople, a different pontiff from the pope entirely! No doubt Nicholas believed this argument applied to him as well, but the person immediately in view is the Patriarch of Constantinople. This statement may apply to pontiffs in general, but it would not be specific to the pope.

As for the claim about what Constantine said, this was cited to "Rufinus i hist. lib.1.c.2." (this was in a side gloss unfortunately not reproduced in the https://geschichte.digitale-sammlungen.de/decretum-gratiani/kapitel/dc_chapter_1_1039 link but is viewable here) This highly abbreviated citation refers to Rufinus's Church History (Historia Ecclesiastica), book 1, chapter 2. This actually was translated into English a few years ago, but I do not have a copy. But we can see the original Latin here where the quote is attributed to Constantine, with Constantine referring to the assembled bishops as gods sent by God who should therefore not be judged ("Vos estenim nobis a Deo dati estis dii, et convenients non est ut homo judicet deos"). The accuracy of Rufinus's claim is questionable, as he was writing a century after and earlier accounts of Nicaea do not refer to Constantine making this statement; on the other hand, it's possible Rufinus was using documents we no longer have access to.

In any event, whether Constantine said such a thing or not is besides the point: The quote as given is a poor translation. Not only is it mistranslated in referring to the pope as God with its inaccurate "who being God", it is further mistranslated because the pope was not being specifically referred to in the first place!


Conclusion

Nicholas appears not to have said any of the quotes listed here. Of the ones cited to A Complete History of the Popes, the first one is not found in the letter it supposedly was in (there is something that vaguely resembles it, but actually says the opposite of what the quote has him say). The second, third, and fourth are too vague to properly check, but given the falseness of the first one, it is highly likely that A Complete History of the Popes (the source for all four) bungled those as well. I should also note that the second quote, independent of the dubiousness of A Complete History of the Popes, seems likely to be a false one also as it refers to Nero, but I found no instance of Nero being mentioned in any of his letters in the same context as the quote. The fifth and sixth were not attributed to Nicholas even in the work that gave them, and the seventh is apparently a mistranslation. Unless people can provide better proof he did say those, they should refrain from attributing these to him.

Due to the problems with these quotes, if you do see someone offer these quotes, you should be very cautious trusting anything else they have to say given the fact they clearly did not attempt to verify them (actually, this applies to copy/pasted false quotes in general). Especially if they are part of a big list of other quotes--those other quotes tend to be just as copy/pasted as the ones noted above and just as unverified by their authors. And generally speaking, just as inaccurate.